Michael Pachla: Some Buffalo-centeric thoughts From the Panthers "video scandal" to the crashing Amerks to the Buffalo Bills and Chris Stewart as well

"Pretty good, but not good enough,"

This is a very generous statement describing Orton.

I'd go with, "Pretty terrible, but hey it's the Bills"

good blog

Michael Pachla: Some Buffalo-centeric thoughts
From the Panthers "video scandal" to the crashing Amerks to the Buffalo Bills and Chris Stewart as well
- Michael Pachla

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solid

"Pretty good, but not good enough,"

This is a very generous statement describing Orton.

I'd go with, "Pretty terrible, but hey it's the Bills"

good blog
- sbroads24

orton is a journeyman, nothing more, nothing less...really do believe that things will improve with more attention paid to the offensive line

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solid
- homiedclown

*bows*

orton is a journeyman, nothing more, nothing less...really do believe that things will improve with more attention paid to the offensive line
- Michael Pachla

They won't have Orton starting next year. It will be Manuel or someone else.

They can't (and now with Pegula won't) sell Orton to the fans

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solid
- homiedclown

That move is reserved for Refs.

I hope Pegula hires a consultant to be a buffer between him and the bills. A person that knows how a winning football organization is run.
To be honest, since he owns the sabres and rochester, a hockey consultant would not be a bad option as well.

That move is reserved for Refs.
- cabin

I use to be a ref, that puts me in the circle of trust

That move is reserved for Refs.
- cabin

I see what you did there

They won't have Orton starting next year. It will be Manuel or someone else.

They can't (and now with Pegula won't) sell Orton to the fans
- sbroads24

http://overthecap.com/free-agency

sanchez?

it's a bad list right now

I have a huge belief in Nolan's ability to motivate and get the best out of players. If Nolan can't light a fire under Stewart, how likely is it that another organization is going to get him going?

I have a huge belief in Nolan's ability to motivate and get the best out of players. If Nolan can't light a fire under Stewart, how likely is it that another organization is going to get him going?
- spatso

It's not as simple as that.

He's had opportunities to score this season. Should probably have 6-7 goals at least. He just isn't burying them, and he disappears at times as well.

http://overthecap.com/free-agency

sanchez?

it's a bad list right now
- homiedclown

Cut Orton, sign someone like Sanchez or get Foles or even take a flier on Bradford.

Draft a QB in round 2-3, go into camp with 3 possible starters. Let them battle it out

They won't have Orton starting next year. It will be Manuel or someone else.

They can't (and now with Pegula won't) sell Orton to the fans
- sbroads24

Time to let Manual start the last three and see if he learned what not to do while on the sidelines.

Time to let Manual start the last three and see if he learned what not to do while on the sidelines.
- Maximum Signal

They probably won't though. If Manuel did well, it would seal their fate as a coaching staff.

Time to let Manual start the last three and see if he learned what not to do while on the sidelines.
- Maximum Signal

It was time a few weeks ago. Orton throws a more accurate ball but he can't handle pressure and can't run for poop. Manuel has no accuracy but he can handle pressure and is decent at running.


In football, your QB needs 2 nice runs of at least 8 yards per game in order to keep defenses on edge. That is of course excluding Brady and Peyton who get so much help from the stripes that they don't need to.

They probably won't though. If Manuel did well, it would seal their fate as a coaching staff.
- sbroads24

We need a coaching staff who is actually working in the best interest of the fans and not just trying to milk 4 years out of us to make a few mil.

Time to let Manual start the last three and see if he learned what not to do while on the sidelines.
- Maximum Signal

I agree

play him vs packers in a meaningful game, not the week after vs the raiders in a meaningless game


they got to fire the coach this off season, he is clueless and over his head at the nfl level

They probably won't though. If Manuel did well, it would seal their fate as a coaching staff.
- sbroads24

if manuel does not do well, it seals the fate of whaley IMO

Cut Orton, sign someone like Sanchez or get Foles or even take a flier on Bradford.

Draft a QB in round 2-3, go into camp with 3 possible starters. Let them battle it out
- sbroads24

common ground


I am not sure with bradford, but I like the flier option
locker
gabbert
flynn
mallet
clausen


one of those need to be brought in with a sanchez type and draft a qb

get 4 in here that could be an option if they turn the corner, cut them if there is no upside after a few weeks

It was time a few weeks ago. Orton throws a more accurate ball but he can't handle pressure and can't run for poop. Manuel has no accuracy but he can handle pressure and is decent at running.


In football, your QB needs 2 nice runs of at least 8 yards per game in order to keep defenses on edge. That is of course excluding Brady and Peyton who get so much help from the stripes that they don't need to.
- Buffalo-Sabres

I would have benched orton after the chicken poop run where he slid 3 yards short of the first down marker on a third down play

leaders go for the first down

he is here for a paycheck, nothing more

I would have benched orton after the chicken poop run where he slid 3 yards short of the first down marker on a third down play

leaders go for the first down

he is here for a paycheck, nothing more
- homiedclown

And its a big one too

I would have benched orton after the chicken poop run where he slid 3 yards short of the first down marker on a third down play

leaders go for the first down

he is here for a paycheck, nothing more
- homiedclown

I thought that as soon as I saw the play .

common ground


I am not sure with bradford, but I like the flier option
locker
gabbert
flynn
mallet
clausen


one of those need to be brought in with a sanchez type and draft a qb

get 4 in here that could be an option if they turn the corner, cut them if there is no upside after a few weeks
- homiedclown

The unfortunate truth is 2015 is a tank season, 2016 we start rebuilding. 17 years AFTER making the playoffs last.